Night Sky Transform: Cosmic musings with Dephosphorus

Space

“Ladies and gentlemen, we are floating in space.”

I suffer the astral woe. For some years now, due in no small part to the towering intellects of popular scientists like Stephen Hawking and Carl Sagan, I’ve been unable to shake the notion that I, a cluster of molecules miraculously arranged into consciousness, am sat upon a hunk of rock suspended in black infinity. And that in this local area of infinity, thousands of light years across, there are billions of stars like our own sun, and billions more that are nothing like it. Gazing out further into the abyss, upwards of 80 billion galaxies all continue to speed away from each other until the end of time. It’s just mind-blowing how we are so hopelessly alone – and yet in all likelihood other life forms could exist amid this inhospitable, chaotic and terrifyingly vast universe. When this cosmic nausea manifests several times daily, it can have a serious effect on one’s life.

Politics, corporations, money, war, chores, TV, nationality, work, people… They all lose meaning, completely irrelevant within the grand scheme of space-time, to the point of being laughable. And what’s even funnier is how seriously humanity takes itself, its hopes and fears, its spirituality and beliefs, the patches on its jackets, in the bleak light of utter insignificance. Our civilisation has such a blinkered interpretation of its existence and importance that I feel like screaming. Blood is spilt again and again over falsehoods, and the entire population has enslaved itself to currencies with no inherent value. Distractions. I can’t help but wonder what we could achieve if we brushed them aside and looked to the night sky together. There’s wisdom out there.

It’s true these absurd preoccupations have shaped the way LURKER appreciates art, and the same paralysing mind trap hasn’t been lost on many bands we enjoy, particularly among the diverse branches of extreme metal and beyond. One such group with their heads lodged firmly between the stars is Greece’s Dephosphorus, who last year set the bar astonishingly high with their first release, Axiom. So visceral, original and immediate was this blink-and-you’ll-miss-it EP that I had to write about it on the fourth consecutive spin, transfixed on how the trio effortlessly warped from one style to another within a meagre 20 minutes. But in my babbling enthusiasm I gave little credence to the concepts at play behind Dephosphorus (music comes first, after all). As it turns out, they’re actually pretty damn cool.

Their debut full-length, Night Sky Transform, goes some way toward untangling the “astrogrind” doctrine set down by Axiom. Preached through the percussive venom of vocalist and lyricist Panos, the album’s themes balance the sci-fi fanaticism of Timeghoul or Jeff Wayne’s War of the Worlds against scenarios that seem entirely possible, given our still extremely limited knowledge of the wider universe and the hidden laws that govern it. Although it’s long been established that Dephosphorus are anything but your run-of-the-mill grindcore band, rarely within this violent subsection are such profound thoughts delivered with a grace and understanding like theirs.

Rallying calls to arms for whatever dubious political purpose are nothing new to punk or metal, but as the story of Night Sky Transform unfolds, it becomes clear that Dephosphorus wish for a complete eradication of the left-right dichotomy, beseeching those who “look to the sky with the right kind of eyes” to unite and bend the knee to a mysterious entity “merely younger than creation itself”, with whom the band shares its name. Although a work of fiction, the album demands a very real rebellion. It documents an awakening, an enlightenment of cosmic proportions among a chosen few who are not shackled by the trials and tribulations of everyday humanity. This feeling that there is something else lurking behind our existence, something far more disturbing than we ever thought, builds up over the first half of the record to violently explode with ‘The Astral Putsch’, a two-part epic in which the initiated come together and spark the uprising using only a “bomb of truth”. No blast is seen, yet it’s enough to cleanse the world of all man-made lies. On the other side, humanity ascends, realises its true potential, and sets about militantly colonising and dominating the universe.

So this may be a long way off, but Dephosphorus are planting the seeds of a necessary ideological sea change, for there will come a time when the planet is no longer able to sustain us, no matter how much people try to ignore the fact. Despite the ambitious concept, they pull it off without flinching. Its success lies within the combination of Panos’s scientific poetry and the daring genre-bending of guitarist Thanos. Axiom thrust the band upon the underground already fully formed with a unique sound that seemed to borrow from everything and nothing. Night Sky Transform charges ahead in this same vein, because there is simply no reason for Dephosphorus to mix up their winning formula at this point – fans just desperately needed to hear more from them.

Rooted in hardcore, every track is a short, sharp shock of astral terror, and although not a single song busts the four-minute mark, the band manages to say more in each than many metal bands say in their entire careers. Thanos is a master of splicing sounds from every corner of heaviness, and as a result the album constantly shifts its attack, tempos and atmosphere. Underpinned by a snarling production, now more balanced than its predecessor’s without losing an ounce of that raw ferocity, Night Sky Transform never stops evolving.

Hear how the album writhes and contorts from bludgeoning grind on opener ‘Uncharted’, to black metal of the most aggressive and virulent strains on ‘Cold Omen’. But the direction of Dephosphorus is not always so easy to pigeonhole, and often the songs straddle myriad styles within minutes. ‘Starless’ sounds like Slayer jamming on Kyuss and Isis tracks, with its gargantuan, down-tuned, stoner-ish vibe eventually veering off into some poisonous thrashing that makes me want to commit serious acts of violence when the drums plunge into a magnificent half-time groove.

Other surprises include ‘The Fermi Paradox’, a lament for Earth’s cosmic irrelevance, which could just as easily be performed by Electric Wizard. Then there’s Ryan Lipynsky’s guest appearance on ‘Unconscious Excursion’, his leather lungs belting out tributes to an unknown pan-dimensional presence and serving as a potent reminder to revisit In the Red/The Trident-era Unearthly Trance. Yet the crowning moment, in my eyes, is the charging death metal assault of ‘Identifying the Encapsulator’, which comes sandwiched between parts I and II of centrepiece ‘The Astral Putsch’. The speculative (or prophetic) lyrics suggesting that our universe was programmed by an elder race are fascinating, and the way the stanzas are broken up shunting between the musical phrases makes for a thrilling, cinematic ride when they are read alongside.

Night Sky Transform is a brilliant album. There are no two ways about it. Many will have heard it long ago and thought, “cool riffs, man”, and moved on without contemplating the lyrics on the necessary level. Indeed, I find myself deep in the thrall of the music and arrangements with every single spin, grimacing, throwing up mad claw, finger-pointing, air-drumming, head-banging – all the personal pointers that tell me I am enjoying a record far too much. But the discerning listener can find so much more to appreciate, simply by following the lyrics sheet and staring at that black canvass above us from time to time. It’s so rare for a band of this extreme calibre to have such a sophisticated concept behind their music, but Dephosphorus triumph in this and they should be celebrated for it. I think they’re genuinely onto something special. Astrogrind is the answer. Panos speaks to LURKER below…

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So it took me a while, listening and poring over the lyrics of both Axiom and NST, to figure out what Dephosphorus represents. Other than being a great band name, it also seems to reference some kind of omnipotent alien being. What led you to this concept? What does it mean to you?

It was a summer afternoon in 2008, Thanos and I took a ride to the beach and discussed starting a new band. We thought about calling it Phosphoros, in reference to a working song title off Leviathan’s Massive Conspiracy Against All Life.

Then we continued to my place where we browsed the internet checking out if the name was taken. It was, so we came across “diphosphoros”, an allotrope of phosphorus, which lead us to Dephosphorus.

I don’t remember how the concept’s idea came exactly. Once we had the name we were enthusiastic and figured out that it would be a cosmic entity. I guess you can say that the name led us to the concept. This is why you’ll hear us saying that “Dephosphorus leads us” or “we’ll go whenever he’ll take us”. This is not some pseudo-occult mumbo jumbo. We just feel that this evening an entry was created in the world of concepts and ideas. And it sure was mystic in a way.

We didn’t create Dephosphorus. We merely became aware of its presence.

You’ve mentioned to me before that Dephosphorus was first intended to be a straight-up black metal band. The finished article is so much broader than that, and personally I have a hard time explaining to others what it is you play. At what point did you realise that this sound wouldn’t be enough to express the ideas swelling inside you all?

What I mentioned privately to you was one the first discussion about Dephosphorus that we had with Thanos back in the last days of Straighthate, our previous band. We decided to give it one ultimate try, and if the two other guys wouldn’t follow “then we should start a new band called Phosphoros and play black metal”. The term “black metal” was more used in order to describe a darker musical style than the intention to confine ourselves to a particular music genre. I think that this was de facto out of the question.

Me and Thanos both share a passion for music in general. We’ve known each other when he as a teenager was reading my articles in Metal Hammer Greece and was ordering records from Blastbeat Mailmurder, the distro/label that I still have to this day. Back then in the early 00s we were very much into European hardcore bands like Kickback and Arkangel, but also all kinds of other stuff like black metal (obviously), death metal, Thanos was a Nirvana and noise rock fan, then we fell in love with Nasum, and the modern metal of Hydrahead, Relapse and the other labels and bands associated with them (Isis, Uphill Battle, Burst, Knut, Anodyne, Discordance Axis, etc).

Night Sky Transform is rife with passion for science and truth. What first sparked this obsession? Who are your favourite thinkers in this field?

All three of us are rational people. We think that analysing reality and expressing ourselves accurately gives a meaning to existence. This is how we were raised.

The background that I have from my family and my studies positions me somewhere between the practical/scientific world of engineers/technicians and the world of literature, linguistics, etc. I guess that’s why science fiction is my literal genre of choice. I hate to disappoint you but I haven’t read even half of the books that are considered classical in literature or philosophy. I always had a more practical mindset and devoted most of my free time toying with computers, exploring the underground metal/hardcore scenes, and reading the kind of literature that was exciting my imagination: science fiction and fantasy (Jules Vernes, Isaac Asimov, H.P. Lovecraft, J.R.R. Tolkien, Stephen King…).

Therefore, I can’t/won’t provide the kind of answer that would be considered cool for the vocalist/lyricist of an extreme music band like “my favorite thinker is Nietzsche and/or Crowley”. My imagination and my perception have been opened wide by Jules Vernes when I was a kid, then by Isaac Asimov as a teenager/young adult and these last years by Iain M Banks. I owe to them my personal conviction that a single intelligent lifeform, like say a human, can alter the course of a universe and/or comprehend a fair amount of its structure. Also the fact that we are nothing but stardust, an organized part of the encompassing vast infinity.

There’s also a lot of cosmological speculation, particularly the ideas translated in ‘Identifying the Encapsulator’ send shivers down my spine. What inspired this scenario?

That’s been directly inspired by an absolutely amazing NASA publication entitled Cosmos & Culture, Cultural Evolution In A Cosmic Context, by Steven J Dick and Mark L Lupisella. This is some of the most inspiring and mind-boggling reading that’s available out there. ‘The Final Computronium’, off the split 7” EP with Wake, has also lyrics inspired by that same book. Read it!

I will! In other off-the-record correspondence you inferred there was a story behind ‘The Astral Putsch’. Please regale us.

To start with, I haven’t really talked about it until now, but most of the songs that I’m writing lyrics about and giving titles to (ever since Straighthate’s Grim Memories mini-CD) have hidden references to favourite bands of mine. I’ve already mentioned to you that ‘On The Verge Of An Occurrence’ from Axiom is a small tribute to Timeghoul (they have a song called ‘Occurrence On Mimas’). The title of ‘The Astral Putsch’ has been inspired by ‘Le Dernier Putsch’, a song off Au Crépuscule De L’Espérance by Canadians Akitsa, an album that has had a tremendous impact on me.

Having said that, the funny story about ‘The Astral Putsch’ is how the concept of the first part, “Plateau Of Initiation”, came to my mind. I was at Roadburn 2011’s main stage watching Shrinebuilder play (Roadburn is myself and Thanos’s favourite festival by the way). Their performance was completely ruined by Cisneros’ bass, which was ridiculously distorted at that particular gig. I was completely stoned so it didn’t bother me that much. What I concentrated to instead was the gigantic piece of artwork mounted behind the stage, which was the epic design that can be found in the inner side of their eponymous album’s gatefold. I fixated on it intensely for what seemed to me like hours and I imagined the concept of a plateau somewhere up in the Himalayas or elsewhere, where a few select disciples would be initiated by Dephosphorus in person.

For me, Night Sky Transform is a protest/rebellion album, but completely unlike any others before it. What do you hope to achieve with this message? Do you think there’s any real possibility of change?

We create the music and the lyrics/concept/aesthetics that we, as music fans, would love to hear and plunge into. As all art, it is an egoist act destined to primarily please ourselves. I am pointing this out because honestly we are not doing this in order to spread a message. There is a message that can be found within our music, but it’s not something that we want to shove down people’s throats.

It is a fact that only 10-15% of the people that will buy an album will actually read the lyrics. I don’t know exactly what conclusions will draw those who will read our lyrics, and it’s not really important per se. Good art must excite the imagination and imagination is humanity’s most potent weapon. The powers who rule the world, the status quo, are making the masses feel despair, apathy and hopelessness.

So, the message is a call to use our imagination. We evolve within a dynamic universe of infinite possibilities, where everything is possible. There have been others before us, and those who will follow. I try not to think in terms of the few decades of my own existence. Isaac Asimov taught me this though his Foundation series… The first book starts with Hari Seldon inventing a new science, psychohistory, which predicts the future by forecasting the masses’ reactions and dynamics. He goes to the emperor of the galaxy and tells him that, according to his calculations, the Galactic Empire will collapse and that a 30,000-year dark age will follow, but he offers a solution that will shorten the gap to the 2nd Galactic Empire to just one millennium…

I think that there is a possibility of change, albeit an unlikely one. To quote the lyrics of ‘Aurora’ (the title of which is also an Asimov reference): “Once figured out, enter the realm of possibilities.” From the moment that we imagine something, it becomes mathematically possible and – why not? – a tangible reality in some parallel universe.

I will agree that all that is happening in human society and civilization is profoundly depressing, yet there is a a faint hope. Anonymous, Wikileaks, animal and ecological activism are a few rays of hope and a living message not to give up in a world of darkness.

We take for granted our technological civilisation and our almighty tyrants (corporations, religions, banks, etc), but a meteor impact or a distant supernova would be enough to dramatically alter our planetary reality. If all life is not destroyed, imagine a worldwide blackout. No electricity, no mechanical power, entire armies powerless – back to Stone Age. Wouldn’t that be a possibility for change?

Even without speculating of a cosmological event, imagine a group of hackers taking down the internet for months, a bit like how the Playstation Network was toast last year. Or a global electromagnetic pulse frying all electrical and electronic devices… You want other scenarios of change? Imagine a genetic mutation or a transplant: an embedded lie detector. Humans could not lie to each other any more. It’s something that will be technologically feasible in the decades/centuries to come. Mankind wouldn’t be the same, for better or for worse. Politicians and religions would be useless. That could be introduced as a genetic mutation without even us knowing about it, like a global virus.

Maybe that one day will dawn different than others, and maybe that this will be for the best of mankind’s survival. In this case, the person(s) that will ignite change, or their ancestors, will have followed the seeds planted in our collective imagination by visionaries such as Iain M Banks, Isaac Asimov… They might even be Dephosphorus fans!

Without this change, how do you see humanity’s future panning out?

I won’t answer that question. I am irritated by all this talk about humanity’s decline, the end of the world, etc. Artistically it’s overdone and aesthetically extremely disappointing and complacent that so many bands and artists insist on that. Ideologically, I think this is hypocritical too because it is against our collective and individual instincts of survival. It’s like all those pathetic bands and individuals talking about suicide but almost never actually doing it. Humans so rarely stick their heads out of their assholes. Me, me, me. Fuck that.

I pretty much like the fact that Dephosphorus are going against the grain. We are not doing this because we are attention-seeking freaks. We are not hippies either. We just follow our instincts. Life follows mysterious ways and the will to live is stronger than anything else. Fuck defeatism. Fuck abandonment. Fight for survival or kill yourself now.

Sticking with this idealist line of inquiry, the band hails from Greece, one of the worst victims of the economic downturn, which I perceive as a product of the “man-made lies” that are so demonised throughout your album. I also sense an exhaustion and anger at the situation being wielded through the music to some degree. How are things out there? Is there even a way out for Greece? I read news of ongoing protests every week. It’s horrifying to watch a nation go bust as if it’s some kind of cruel experiment.

Western Capitalism is going through a phase of transformation because it’s no longer as profitable as it used to be, notably due to the competition from the East (China, India…). Greece was a good starting point. It has politicians corrupted to the bone who wouldn’t dare to stand for their people, and even if they wanted to, the Europeans and the Americans know so much about them that the mere thought of blackmail would suffice to make them shut the fuck up and do as they are told.

The crisis has revealed the true face of Modern Greece and it isn’t pretty. Greeks are experts at lying to themselves, finding excuses and blaming others. This is all due to a lack of education. The whole country sinks in its own paradox and contradictions.

We are a nation living in a glorious past that isn’t ours. We are proud of the feats that others did before us, 2,000+ years ago. We are proud of being the direct descendants of Ancient Greeks, which is a ridiculous claim to make after the brutal Christianisation of the land, two millennia, two empires, countless wars, plagues and population relocations. We are proud of being Orthodox, the most righteous and divinely inspired form of Christianity. We are not cultivated enough to realize that the heathen worldviews of the Ancient Greeks are directly opposed to the cancer of monotheism and Christianity.

The truth is that Greece is a young country which has only existed as a state since the 19th century. Romantic Europeans have made its population believe that their nation is the direct continuation of Ancient Greece. This is why our foundations are rotten, and the crisis made the whole edifice collapse over night.

Even though not a lot of days pass by without me asking myself , “what am I doing in this fucking country?” I believe that there is a possibility of change. The good thing about the crisis is that it’s making the existing political class collapse.

A side effect of that is we now have the Nazis around. They are in the parliament. Gangs of them are prowling at night stabbing powerless immigrants with the cover of the police (half of the police personnel having voted for them at the last elections) and the corrupt justice system. Nazis together with religious freaks are trying to gag the freedom of speech and shut the mouth of all those who dare to think differently. A few days ago they succeeded in cancelling the premiere of theatrical play Corpus Christi because it allegedly depicts Jesus and the apostles as gay.

There is a dreadful feeling of civil war in the air these days. Greek society is on the verge of barbarity. I hope that eventually we will overcome. We must boot from scratch. Our whole society and nation needs psychoanalysis.

Greece is located in a very special place in the world. It’s the crossroads of East and West. The idiocy of some of my compatriots can’t change the unique vibes that emanate from the land and the sea. For all the uneducated, ignorant majority, there’s a lot of beautiful, determined, creative people. I hope that we will be able to unite our efforts and crush mediocrity. We sure need all the help we can get from our friends abroad…

Will Dephosphorus ever tour? Please say yes. I can’t help thinking watching you guys on stage would be violent and life-affirming.

Thanks for anticipating Dephosphorus gigs! We will definitely play live. We just don’t know when. We too are looking forward to it.

People don’t know what to expect, and some of them must be wondering whether we would be good or we would suck. We like that sort of speculation, it is definitely a challenge for our future live performances. We’ll make sure to kill everybody in our sight!

I look forward to it. NST followed hot on the heels of Axiom. I remember first hearing it only a matter of months after the EP’s release. How do you go about churning out these songs, and can we expect a follow-up album soon?

We are blessed to have a songwriter who is an unstoppable riff machine! Thanos is an overachiever and constantly brings up  both quality and quantity. So, it’s just a matter of taking the time to arrange everything together and capture the result at the studio.

What have you guys been listening to recently? I’m in desperate need of recommendations and trust very few to give me ones that are worthwhile.

Thanos’s playlist:

· Blut Aus Nord – 777 Cosmosophy
· Aluk Todolo – Occult Rock
· Hebosagil – Ura
· Leviathan – discography
· Arkangel – Dead Man Walking
· Switchblade – s/t 2012
· JK Flesh – Posthuman
· Moon Duo – Circles
· Blut Aus Nord – 777 The Desanctification

The last couple of months I’ve been listening a lot to:

· Nocturnal Vomit – Cursed Relics (awesome metal ov death from Greece)
· Witchrist – The Grand Tormentor (a masterpiece of black/death featuring Alexander L Brown and his great art)
· Antediluvian/Temple Nightside split 7” (one of the most dark, mystical death metal split EPs ever unleashed upon mankind)
· Merzbow – Merzbient (a proud – albeit expensive – addition to my record collection, two boxsets with 18 LPs!)
· Arkangel – Dead Man Walking (a fucking classic)
· Godless – Via Crucis (Greece’s best kept death metal secret)
· Karnarium – Otapama Prataja (challenging, phenomenal Swedish death metal)
· Cloud Rat – discography (one of my favourite contemporary grind/hardcore bands with inspiring lyrics and an intense female vocalist)
· Nocturnal Blood – Devastated Graves: The Morbid Celebration (monumental chaotic black/death)
· Biosphere – discography (a personal favourite, some of the finest electronic/ambient music ever conceived)
· Like Rats – Like Rats (dirty, gritty USHC)
· Iron Maiden – Somewhere In Time/7th Son Of A 7th Son (Maiden got me into metal, I will always love them until – and including – Fear Of The Dark! I just grabbed a few second-hand vinyls of theirs)
· Forteresse – Métal Noir Québécois (even though they belong to the same scene as Akitsa, I somehow never checked them out. This is their debut and my kind of BM)
· Blut Aus Nord – Ultima Thulée (one of my all-time favourite BM albums. Thank dog I now have my copy on vinyl.)
· Adversarial/Antediluvian and Grave Upheaval/Manticore split LPs (two excellent new releases by Nuclear War Now!)

Your thoughts on:

Faster-than-light travel

I’ve always found disappointing the fact that modern science has put a barrier declaring that it’s not feasible. I cannot prove them wrong of course, but somehow it does not feel right. In any case, you don’t have to physically achieve FTL speeds. Borrowing something like a wormhole is a theoretically possible scenario for FTL travel. It just requires several suns’ worth of energy. If humanity persists, I think that we could achieve that in the next thousand years.

The Fermi Paradox

It is perfectly reasonable to ask ourselves if there is intelligent life elsewhere, why we haven’t found it already or why it hasn’t found us and entered in contact. I tend to think that super-advanced civilizations would be hidden to the technology with which we scan the universe right now, and if they found us they wouldn’t want/care to interfere with our shitty local business of self-destruction.

Dark Matter

There is a lot of grief and depression accompanying modern life, but we certainly live interesting, exciting times. I hope that the mystery of Dark Matter will be solved before I die… It is the most important problem that modern science must solve. I am convinced that if and when we will figure it out, it will be the most important discovery in the history of mankind. More important than fire, gravity and relativity together. Dark Matter is directly linked to the nature of our cosmic reality. I believe that it somehow it is the backbone of the universe. I have recently written some new lyrics about that…

Black holes

They are one of the most fascinating type of cosmic objects. One where the rules of physics as we know them cease to apply. I’ve recently read a theory which speculates that inside each black hole there is another universe, which means that our own universe resides inside a big black hole. Interesting, huh? In ‘The Final Computronium’, off the split 7” EP with Wake, we consider black holes as the absolute source of energy, those to use for mega projects like the creation of new universes…

Colonising other star systems

It’s just a matter of time. For that we will need FTL travel and/or hibernation.

God

You left the one-million-dollar question for the end, didn’t you? First, let me make a distinction between the monotheistic conception of god that we are raised with in the Western and Muslim worlds, and the polytheistic notion of the divine.

Monotheists believe there is a god who wasn’t created but existed forever. He created space, time and the universe. Most polytheist cults believe in the contrary that their gods are cosmic forces who rose out of the primordial chaos at the same time as the rest of creation. Those cosmic forces/gods helped shape up the universe and put some order in it.

Those are two completely different and opposed theological schools of thought. The monotheist god is not a part of creation. Creation is his toy. The polytheist gods in the contrary are part of the cosmos. In the first case there is this alien god outside of the universe, in the second case you have concrete gods who are nothing but cosmic forces.

To think that a supreme power has created all this, and that this supreme power existed forever, is an extremely idiotic, unscientific, irrational statement. It is a childish answer to an infinitely complex question. This cannot be true. We live in a dynamic, ever-evolving cosmic environment. There cannot be such thing as an immortal, everlasting superpower. That’s mumbo jumbo.

Humans need to feel safe, anchored in this volcanic rock speeding up across a vast cosmos at high speeds. They invent all sorts of notions like god, life after death, in order to feel safe and avoid the real questions, those that it makes sense trying to answer. The questions that make us human. The greek word for “human” is “anthropos”, which comes from two words: “ano throsko”, “looking above”. Most humans don’t look above, they just have their head shoved up their ass. This is where their god is.

Anyway, this question about god, aka the supreme being in the origin of everything, has been answered 2,500 years ago by Aristotle. In his Metaphysics, Aristotle suggested that the first cause, the “unmoved power”, can be nothing else than energy. To quote Wikipedia: “Aristotle’s actualistic ontology is a denial of ‘potential ontology’ – that Being is the first cause of the cosmos.”

The monotheist god is a logical fallacy, a ridiculous assumption. Science and reason will sooner or later make it disappear from the ideosphere.

Anything you’d like to add?

Having people such as yourself be concerned and inspired not only by our music but by our concept, means the world to us. Thank you very fucking much for the support comrade. Science and reason shall prevail.

All hail Aurora.

Hates music and writing. Unfortunately, he's a journalist.

7 Comments

  • Reply November 3, 2012

    Pascal Cretain

    Kudos to the interviewer and interviewee.

  • Reply November 7, 2012

    dschalek

    Thanks for this. I have an astronomical-themed article due to be published on Invisible Oranges this week and, damn it all, I should have been aware of this album sooner.

    High priority.

  • Reply November 21, 2012

    blasting D

    really cool interview about a great band!

  • Reply November 22, 2012

    DAGRIND

    Great band indeed.Both axiom and NST are already milestones.Only one flaw as far as i am concerned and its not a musical one.Panos is wrong on the part of ancient greeks being related to modern greeks.Science,which he supports so much,has already proved that our DNA matches 89% that of the ancient greeks.Thats why its important to know before we say anything.

    • Reply January 1, 2013

      Richard

      Yes, but look at your nation now. Proof DNA doesn’t mean shit.

  • Reply May 10, 2013

    DAGRIND

    I was only refering to the dna fact.I know whats going on in my country.I live in Greece(and you dont..)

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